Community Mgr Salaries

Community Manager Salary

I’m proud to say that I was the first to openly discuss salary expectations here on my blog starting in the fall of 2007. Now this emerging role is one of the fastest growing in the job market. Despite the recession, companies realize the advantages of adding this role and are seeking qualified candidates.

And on the flip side, many that have become statistics due to the economy are evaluating their skill set and reinventing themselves. Rachel, an unemployed journalist shared her story of how she creatively found employment in this field.

I have both employers and job seekers asking me about salary expectations. This is my advice. It’s based on discussions with recent hires, companies seeking, and a Salary Survey done last year.

The job market at present favors those seeking positions.

Employers seeking a community manager/social media specialist can approach this two ways:

  • entry level with specific salary range – but be aware that it may:
    • prevent you from hiring someone with the experience & skills that will really benefit your organization
    • requires in-depth interviewing to ensure a good fit
    • the successful candidate will use the job to gain experience & then move on (taking their personality with them) – the nature of this role is to be the company’s voice, so it will affect your customers
  • professional position with responsibility for leadership
    • ask the applicants what their salary expectations are
      • this was a huge shock for me, but I truly felt like my professional skills were being recognized.
      • my salary increased 30% from my previous library/admin position that required a Master’s degree
    • the advantage to this is that you’ll get a much broader selection of applicants & together you can define the role (& fair compensation)
    • the successful candidate will tend to stay because they’re intrinsically motivated & in a professionally rewarding position
  • In either case, consider offering a remote option – because:
    • the position is project oriented & lends itself to working remotely (I wouldn’t get half as much done at the office)
    • applicants will be more qualified & you’ll find a better fit
    • salary is more flexible because cost of living varies widely (for ex: it costs 2.5 x more to live in San Fran than where I live in rural Minnesota) And I provide damn good services even though I don’t live in SF! (yes, there’s a story there)
    • these are my guidelines for working remotely (an overview of my chat with Warren Sukernek, who is now working remotely, follow him on Twitter @WarrenSS)

This morning Leslie Carothers asked an interesting question on Twitter. (She’s a leading community builder in the home furnishings industry.) I couldn’t answer this in 140 char’s or less.

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The answer to this question requires a few parts:

1. The position needs are going to be based on the company’s business requirements.

  • What is their strategy for online engagement?
  • How dependent is their success on interaction with their customers online?
  • Is their internal culture ready for an incredible shift? Talking with customers directly requires a whole new attitude.

2. Annual company sales don’t matter.

  • Many startups with online services & products KNOW they have to have this position to make them relevant & successful.
  • My prediction is that the larger the enterprise, the slower they will be to add it.
    • to assist with this I’m doing workshops at Community 2.0 and Enterprise 2.0
    • there’s a learning curve in understanding the role & strategically implementing it
  • Salaries for entry level online community managers range from $50 k to $ 85 k depending on location. Please don’t insult people that have acquired the skills and are ready to build your brand & provide for your customers directly. I have recommended to people to turn down job offers that require them to work onsite & yet can’t afford the cost of living there. The employer can compromise & try remote. That’s called contracting. It bothers me when employers try to take advantage of talented people with the job skills they’re seeking. And if you’re considering doing contracting work, remember that you need to request a higher rate because you’ll be responsible for your own FICA/Medicare, health insurance, retirement, etc. In my case I owed 49% in taxes before considering health insurance or retirement. So discuss the ramifications with your accountant before you spend it all 
  • Salaries for experienced online community managers range from $60 k to over $100 k. I’m aware of one that works remotely with a salary of $120 k.
  • My last point was my first thought when I saw Leslie’s question. To be honest, working at a startup is far easier because the culture is oriented toward Web 2.0 and they’re far more likely to embrace transparency & authenticity. The silos don’t exist yet and the organization’s hierarchy is relatively flat. So, realistically, an online community manager starting in the enterprise deserves to be paid more because they’re going to have so many more challenges to overcome internally. It’s going to require so much more patience. They’re going to need executive sponsorship. Otherwise the position will not be effective and will fall short of it’s potential return.
    • All of those are reasons to hire a community manager with experience & respect it as a professional position.

Having an online community manager is an investment in the company’s future. It’s not just a step towards staying relevant in this challenging world, it’s a leap!

And yes, I’m passionate about this topic of compensation & community building as a whole. My readers/network provide me with views from both sides. As always your thoughts are welcome. Let’s discuss them!


Create Your Own Opportunities

Since August or so I’ve had people reaching out asking how to start building their brand. For whatever reason they are realizing that they need to establish a presence online.

  • Some have been laid off & are considering new options.
  • Some would like to work in social media & community building.
  • Some realize that they need to create an online presence

Last spring I was in the same position. Because I work remotely my options were really limited. It took me awhile to rethink the whole concept and I’ll admit that I had help from friends. For awhile I was applying for 2-3 jobs a day with no response. I must admit that a major web 2.0 company asked if I’d move to San Francisco, but that wasn’t an option. It was disheartening. (And to my friend who recently emailed me with your news of not getting your position, this post is for you).

For me, it took a lot of talking out loud to rethink things. It’s so important to invest in yourself. And if you’re looking for a position then TELL potential employers that. Now is a better time than ever to be thinking outside the box. This is going to sound really odd, but I have experienced tipping points in a number of areas:

  • my social networking has gone through phases & now is building on it’s own – I no longer wonder where all my new Twitter & FB followers come from – I am just thankful
  • my personal branding is something I do automatically without thought
  • work opportunities now come to me (but I believe that I have planted seeds)

So what are the secrets?

1. a personal advisory board that you trust – only when you share your fears can others help you – choose people that you can give back things to – time is a commodity

2. social networking – hang out with like minded people – is it LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, etc? But you HAVE to get involved! that’s imperative

3. blogging – you need to establish a presence – what makes you unique & what value will you provide? This is about YOUR brand & what you bring to the company

4. lifelong learning – always keep learning – that makes you flexible & more employable.

5. when you network with people tell them what type of work you’d like Find reasons to network with potential employers.

  • Interview them about what their business is about.
  • Do volunteer work for them. Help them get to know YOU
  • Be interested in their business. Become knowledgeable about the industry
  • Evangelize in what you believe in – people will notice you
  • Work hard & show that you’re not afraid of digging in

In the last month people have been asking me how many hours a day I work. The truth is that I’m online from 7:30 am to 10-11 pm with 1-2 hrs break during the day. In the morning personal work takes about an hour and in the evening I sometimes work or do personal/professional work. Remember that my daughter is in college, so I have an empty nest.

In regard to my time, there have been a few occasions when I’ve gotten of the phone and my husband would say, were you getting paid for that or not? Most of the time I wasn’t. But in the long run, my advising has now ended up causing a new problem of needing to learn to say ‘no’ (which is another blog post).

My friend & one of my mentors in the branding area wrote a great article on this topic:

The Real Way to Get a Job using Social Media by Dan Schawbel

If you’ve recently found a job leave a comment with your story.


Do What you Love & Love What you Do

Because it is your life, right?  I’ve always believed that life is about choices. It’s up to you to decide what you’re going to do with them. Invest in yourself & add the determination.

Not long ago Derrick Kwa from Singapore asked my opinion. Derrick was in the US not long ago working with Seth Godin on his Triibes project. Also, Derrick is an avid marketing junkie & started a social media breakfast in Singapore.

Derrick’s question to me was whether he should accept a job offer.

Here are things that I think everyone should consider as they search for jobs. And they are especially true if you’re going to work in social media.

  • What is the product?
  • Do you believe in it?
  • Can you sell it?
  • Do you trust the company? the management?
  • What is the state of the brand?
    • Is the public sentiment justified?
    • Do you believe that you can contribute to the brand?
  • Does your personal brand resonate with the position?
    • Does it contribute to the company’s mission?
    • Will the position affect your personal brand positively or negatively?

Even if the position pays well, is that enough? Only you can decide that. Derrick blogged about his decision. He said,

So why did I reject the offer? Because I don’t believe in the product. I’m not passionate about what they are selling. And that’s the most important thing for me.

Yes, I was tempted by the money, I’m not going to deny that. I was definitely very tempted. But after talking to Connie Bensen about it (thanks for the advice, Connie), she helped me realize that it wouldn’t be worth doing if I wasn’t passionate about it.

Do you agree that my questions have any relevance for job satisfaction in the social media world? I look forward to hearing your ideas.


Community Manager Recruitment

This is part of a series focused on the hiring process for community managers. My goal is to provide information for both companies looking to hire & those interested in the role. Community management is going to be a key role & it’s easier to start with a good fit than have extract oneself from a bad situation. Bottom line: recruitment & training takes resources (time & money).

In the last post on the Interview Process I offered tips for both the Interviewer & the candidate. That started some interesting conversations. I predict that recruiting highly qualified community managers is going to be challenging.

In regard to that post, Richard Millington pointed out that the questions aren’t very helpful unless the Interviewer is really familiar with the role. He asked if a Community Manager really needs an interview?

Martin Reed added:

I think it is important to take their previous experience and achievements into account but you should still take the time to interview them or at least engage in a conversation to see if they are a right ‘fit’ – after all, would you still recruit the perfect community manager if you couldn’t stand speaking to them?

I do agree that there should be a formal interview process. That is important for both the employer & potential candidate. Both sides need to be open & explore the following:

  • work habits
  • company culture
  • expectations for the position
  • knowledge of social media tools & participation in social networks
  • product knowledge & familiarity with customer segments
  • communication skills
  • ability to mediate & tactfully deal with people
  • leadership skills – this can be a powerful position if utilized correctly
  • creativity – brainstorming & execution
  • open to experimentation & ability to learn from mistakes
  • familiarity with analytics
  • aspirations

Jeremiah Owyang has many posts on the role. Here are a couple that are helpful:

If you would like assistance with any of the following, email me at mailto:conniebensen@gmail.com

  • How a Community Manager can contribute to your business goals.
  • Assistance with creating a job description that suits your organization’s needs.
  • Reviewing & interviewing potential candidates
  • Training based on organizational needs
  • Exploring alternative options:
    • utilizing someone on staff
    • job sharing the position

What other factors should be considered in the recruitment process?


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